I was reading a captivating article1 by Stanley Fish at the NY Times, in which he “reviews” (read - debunks) three books on atheism vs. theism, etc – one by Sam Harris, one by Richard Dawkins, and one by Christopher Hitchens. While, I myself find these three books to be particularly ingenuous and unconvincing, with their arguments stretched, stale, staid, ill-conceived and extremely simplistic, - I was not entirely pleased with the eloquent sophistry of Fish himself. For example, about the biblical story of the Fall – Fish has this to say:
Dawkins asks why Adam and Eve (and all their descendants) were punished so harshly, given that their “sin” – eating an apple after having been told not to – “seems mild enough to merit a mere reprimand.” (We might now call this the Scooter Libby defense.) This is a good question, but it is one that has been asked and answered many times, not by atheists and scoffers, but by believers trying to work though the dilemmas presented by their faith. An answer often given is that it is important that the forbidden act be a trivial one; for were it an act that was on its face either moral or immoral, committing it or declining to commit it would follow from the powers of judgment men naturally have. It is because there is no reason, in nature, either to eat the apple or to refrain from eating it, that the prohibition can serve as a test of faith; otherwise, as John Webster explained (“The Examination of Academies,” 1654), faith would rest “upon the rotten basis of humane authority.”
Very nice on the face of it, but it conceals a deeper fallacy, that pervades much theological and religious thinking. As one of the posters in the comments sections responded:
I’ve only read Hitchens’ book, not the others, but I’ve thought about this for some time. (Atran’s book, “In Gods We Trust” published a few years ago may be the best of them.) Since we seem to be looking at the matter from the inside here, let me take another look at the “Fall,” as described by Prof. Fish, who makes much of this text as the origin of evil, which, he says, lies in the immorality or bad faith of Adam in eating from the tree. I concede he says it is not a very satisfying explanation, but Im not convinced it is an explanation at all. So, think again. Before eating from the Tree of the Knowing of Good and Evil (the term comes from Everett Fox’s translation), Eve and the (trickster) snake discuss the matter in a highly rational discourse: Nonsense, s/he says (the serpent is often depicted at least in medieval representations as both male and female), you won’t die; god knows that if you eat that fruit, you will become like gods, knowing good and evil. Eve agrees with this logic, and eats from the tree, sharing with Adam. And their eyes are opened. And the snake was right: they don’t die, and they do gain moral knowledge (e.g., clothes for starters).
The key point is that up to this point it’s impossible for either Adam or Eve to do something immoral or evil. Rational, yes; moral, no.
But then as we know from Prof. Fish’s earlier discussion of spin, it all depends where you start.
I maintain that this is not immoral, or sinful, or evil. Adam and Eve are amoral, and have no morality with which to evaluate the situation. They cannot be immoral in the same way that a dog or a mouse can’t; they don’t have the equipment.
What’s interesting is that they do seem to have a rational capacity; they reason themselves into a lot of trouble. Most critical, if you take this text seriously, it’s really hard to see how it can mean what people so often say it means. Only if kittens can sin is there “original sin” here. And without that, what is there, even from a perspective of “faith?”
Reading through the comments on his article, I came another one that reflects my own thoughts very well:
Prof., I am dismayed that you could write such a trite, flippant article! From the outset, you appear intent to mock the authors you mention (S for Sin and Satan, indeed! and “tossing bouquets to each other”, etc.), and to grind your own ax, rather than give your usual high standard of thought-provoking analysis.
Turning to the subject matter, though, 1 Corinthians 2:14 reads “The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.”
This is the crux of the circular argument advanced by Christian believers (I cannot speak for Islam, or any other religion, but I guess there’s similar stuff) and is a convenient catch-all for any who profess an atheistic world view: If you don’t believe this, then you must be a) devoid of Spirit, b) possessed by the Devil, c) too stupid to understand. But, if you do believe, why then, by self-fulfilment, you must be filled with Spirit!
Bush echoed this thinking in his “you’re either for us or against us” remark.
Thank God there are people in the world who are a bit more subtle and nuanced than that!
1 http://fish.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/06/10/the-three-atheists/